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		<title>By: ChattyPatty328</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChattyPatty328</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually DeRogatis is anything but pretentious and he never was.  That&#039;s not a defense of him.  I don&#039;t agree with a LOT of his views and reviews.  But I knew him as a colleague back in the early to mid 90s and he was not pretentious AT ALL -- in fact he was actually a big fat slob whose clothes wouldn&#039;t button all the way and he looked like he never saw a mirror that reflected from the neck up either.  Messy hair, stubble and a gut hanging over your pants and popping the bottom button on your shirt usually don&#039;t signal pretention, just slovenliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually DeRogatis is anything but pretentious and he never was.  That&#8217;s not a defense of him.  I don&#8217;t agree with a LOT of his views and reviews.  But I knew him as a colleague back in the early to mid 90s and he was not pretentious AT ALL &#8212; in fact he was actually a big fat slob whose clothes wouldn&#8217;t button all the way and he looked like he never saw a mirror that reflected from the neck up either.  Messy hair, stubble and a gut hanging over your pants and popping the bottom button on your shirt usually don&#8217;t signal pretention, just slovenliness.</p>
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		<title>By: rook34</title>
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		<dc:creator>rook34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think some of Rattle and Hum, particularly Larry&#039;s Elvis interview, is some of the best, most real perspective we&#039;ve ever seen on the band.  

Some of it&#039;s pretty awful, too.  But when that comes on cable I usually watch.  The fact that an Irish rock and roll band, who at that time, had one big US album to its credit decided to make a movie about themselves is probably what buried the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think some of Rattle and Hum, particularly Larry&#8217;s Elvis interview, is some of the best, most real perspective we&#8217;ve ever seen on the band.  </p>
<p>Some of it&#8217;s pretty awful, too.  But when that comes on cable I usually watch.  The fact that an Irish rock and roll band, who at that time, had one big US album to its credit decided to make a movie about themselves is probably what buried the project.</p>
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		<title>By: m_dow</title>
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		<dc:creator>m_dow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the album &quot;Rattle and Hum&quot; was the first U2 album I ever owned.  My friends were all listening to them right after Atomic Bomb came out, so I went to the music store and asked which album I should buy first.  Smart kid told me to choose between Joshua Tree and Rattle and Hum.  

I only saw the movie for the first time last summer, and enjoyed it as background to the album I loved. I can&#039;t really see it with any other perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the album &#8220;Rattle and Hum&#8221; was the first U2 album I ever owned.  My friends were all listening to them right after Atomic Bomb came out, so I went to the music store and asked which album I should buy first.  Smart kid told me to choose between Joshua Tree and Rattle and Hum.  </p>
<p>I only saw the movie for the first time last summer, and enjoyed it as background to the album I loved. I can&#8217;t really see it with any other perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: sheamart</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheamart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fire Jim DeRogatis facebook page:  http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=108617875615</description>
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		<title>By: Runtmg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Runtmg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twenty years on the debate is, was U2 the aholes who made rattle and hum or was rattle and hum the movie that made U2 aholes. 

I think the latter.  Rattle and Hum was U2 getting carried away with themselves.  It was serious music by a serious band making a serious movie.  All in all, the music was great - the movie was not.  

This review misses the evolutionary step that this band took with movie.  Namely, it was the end of the pilgrims and miners for humanity phase of their career. The movie perfectly captures a band struggling to be authentic.  Edge explaining the draw of gospel.  Larry&#039;s love of Elvis.  Adam&#039;s defense of politics and music.  All throughout, that egomaniac Bonois actually not front and center during the movie.  

This was a period where Bono was considered a sex symbol, to be U2 and he speaks only in songs other than cautioning the viewer about the movies version of Sumday Bloody Sunday.

This wasn&#039;t Hannah Montana or a Hard Days night.  This was U2 insecure, unsure and relevant.  

Contrast this with the Blackberry sponsored, Bono giving shoutouts to the millionaires of any given city 360 tour and I yearn for the day in which a 28 year old poet with an Irish voice just wanted three chords and the truth 

With that said, how come rock critics in this day and age still exist?  Seriously, the label is dead , rock n roll hasn&#039;t had anyone really culturaly significant since Cobain.  Every artist is forced to &quot;team up&quot; with the major store of your choosing.  &quot;Bad&quot; is now the soundtrack for Nascar.   

Twenty two years on U2 - having made Achtung Baby, Zooropa, atyclb, htdaa and underrated albums like Pop and NLOtH  aren&#039;t the aholes who made Rattle and hum.  Rattle and hum potrayed U2 as aholes.  Ask the beatles about Magical Mystery Tour sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twenty years on the debate is, was U2 the aholes who made rattle and hum or was rattle and hum the movie that made U2 aholes. </p>
<p>I think the latter.  Rattle and Hum was U2 getting carried away with themselves.  It was serious music by a serious band making a serious movie.  All in all, the music was great &#8211; the movie was not.  </p>
<p>This review misses the evolutionary step that this band took with movie.  Namely, it was the end of the pilgrims and miners for humanity phase of their career. The movie perfectly captures a band struggling to be authentic.  Edge explaining the draw of gospel.  Larry&#8217;s love of Elvis.  Adam&#8217;s defense of politics and music.  All throughout, that egomaniac Bonois actually not front and center during the movie.  </p>
<p>This was a period where Bono was considered a sex symbol, to be U2 and he speaks only in songs other than cautioning the viewer about the movies version of Sumday Bloody Sunday.</p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t Hannah Montana or a Hard Days night.  This was U2 insecure, unsure and relevant.  </p>
<p>Contrast this with the Blackberry sponsored, Bono giving shoutouts to the millionaires of any given city 360 tour and I yearn for the day in which a 28 year old poet with an Irish voice just wanted three chords and the truth </p>
<p>With that said, how come rock critics in this day and age still exist?  Seriously, the label is dead , rock n roll hasn&#8217;t had anyone really culturaly significant since Cobain.  Every artist is forced to &#8220;team up&#8221; with the major store of your choosing.  &#8220;Bad&#8221; is now the soundtrack for Nascar.   </p>
<p>Twenty two years on U2 &#8211; having made Achtung Baby, Zooropa, atyclb, htdaa and underrated albums like Pop and NLOtH  aren&#8217;t the aholes who made Rattle and hum.  Rattle and hum potrayed U2 as aholes.  Ask the beatles about Magical Mystery Tour sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: caravox</title>
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		<dc:creator>caravox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, DeRogatis had the a-holes&#039; latest album No Line On The Horizon on his top 10 best albums of 2009 list:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/derogatis/2009/12/the_best_albums_of_2009.html

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;10. U2, &quot;No Line on the Horizon&quot; (Universal)&lt;/b&gt;
After a disappointing run in the new millennium regurgitating much of what they&#039;ve done before, the long-running Irish heroes were in danger of becoming bloated dinosaur rockers sinking in the tar pit of nostalgia. The 360 Tour did nothing to rescue the group from that fate, but its 12th studio album ranks beside &quot;Achtung Baby&quot; as its bravest and most experimental--a welcome exercise in how far the boundaries of the U2 sound can be stretched while maintaining the majestic grandeur and stadium-rousing qualities that have become its trademarks.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, DeRogatis had the a-holes&#8217; latest album No Line On The Horizon on his top 10 best albums of 2009 list:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.suntimes.com/derogatis/2009/12/the_best_albums_of_2009.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.suntimes.com/derogatis/2009/12/the_best_albums_of_2009.html</a></p>
<p><i><b>10. U2, &#8220;No Line on the Horizon&#8221; (Universal)</b><br />
After a disappointing run in the new millennium regurgitating much of what they&#8217;ve done before, the long-running Irish heroes were in danger of becoming bloated dinosaur rockers sinking in the tar pit of nostalgia. The 360 Tour did nothing to rescue the group from that fate, but its 12th studio album ranks beside &#8220;Achtung Baby&#8221; as its bravest and most experimental&#8211;a welcome exercise in how far the boundaries of the U2 sound can be stretched while maintaining the majestic grandeur and stadium-rousing qualities that have become its trademarks.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: ZooTV8</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZooTV8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve known Jim for a few years, and he&#039;s a nice, knowledgable guy in person; generous even.  I used to call in to his show before it went national whenever he and Greg would trash U2 --sometimes to defend the band, other times to agree with their assessments.  On the whole, it&#039;s my assessment that Jim does not care much for U2 or many other &quot;stadium rock&quot; bands.  I ran into him just before the &quot;secret&quot; radio show in Chicago last year, and he was dreading going; because he &quot;had to.&quot;  

DeRo does, however, like many of us, grow to appreciate SOME of U2&#039;s cannon of songs.  

He&#039;s a critic; he&#039;s entitled to his opinion.  In reality, you&#039;re a critic too; you&#039;re entitled to your opinion, too. 

Nobody says you&#039;re right all the time, too... just maybe occasionally more often than my friend Jim!  

Lance A. Schart
Chicago, IL USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve known Jim for a few years, and he&#8217;s a nice, knowledgable guy in person; generous even.  I used to call in to his show before it went national whenever he and Greg would trash U2 &#8211;sometimes to defend the band, other times to agree with their assessments.  On the whole, it&#8217;s my assessment that Jim does not care much for U2 or many other &#8220;stadium rock&#8221; bands.  I ran into him just before the &#8220;secret&#8221; radio show in Chicago last year, and he was dreading going; because he &#8220;had to.&#8221;  </p>
<p>DeRo does, however, like many of us, grow to appreciate SOME of U2&#8242;s cannon of songs.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s a critic; he&#8217;s entitled to his opinion.  In reality, you&#8217;re a critic too; you&#8217;re entitled to your opinion, too. </p>
<p>Nobody says you&#8217;re right all the time, too&#8230; just maybe occasionally more often than my friend Jim!  </p>
<p>Lance A. Schart<br />
Chicago, IL USA</p>
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		<title>By: syronix</title>
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		<dc:creator>syronix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I must confess that R&amp;H is one of my favourite albums (by U2 and in general)... and also that I like very much the film. :-/
I&#039;ve never thought that they were pretentious... rather that they were Irish people discovering America, young successful musicians who paid visit and tribute to their idols. When I see Larry sitting on Elvis&#039; motorcycle, I see a moved young man near a relic.
Morover, if THEY don&#039;t act as stars, who could do? JLo??? Britney??? Green Day??? Oh no, these people would never let us see them entering a cowboy boots shop and being quite ridiculous...
So now I confess DeRo: I understand nothing about music and I&#039;m an a-hole ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I must confess that R&amp;H is one of my favourite albums (by U2 and in general)&#8230; and also that I like very much the film. :-/<br />
I&#8217;ve never thought that they were pretentious&#8230; rather that they were Irish people discovering America, young successful musicians who paid visit and tribute to their idols. When I see Larry sitting on Elvis&#8217; motorcycle, I see a moved young man near a relic.<br />
Morover, if THEY don&#8217;t act as stars, who could do? JLo??? Britney??? Green Day??? Oh no, these people would never let us see them entering a cowboy boots shop and being quite ridiculous&#8230;<br />
So now I confess DeRo: I understand nothing about music and I&#8217;m an a-hole <img src='http://www.atu2blog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has seen the outtakes to this movie will know that a lot of good stuff was left out.
I don&#039;t think the movie makes them looks like a-holes, just a bit boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has seen the outtakes to this movie will know that a lot of good stuff was left out.<br />
I don&#8217;t think the movie makes them looks like a-holes, just a bit boring.</p>
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		<title>By: nava1987</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad some one pointed out how unbelievably biased DeRogatis is.  I read the Sun-Times on a daily basis, and I do not look forward to his column at all.  If you don&#039;t like U2&#039;s music, fine.  But he personally attacks them every chance he gets.  He has some sort of problem with any band that&#039;s had global success.  And R&amp;H is painful?  That just shows he wouldn&#039;t even give great live performances like Bad and WOWY a chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad some one pointed out how unbelievably biased DeRogatis is.  I read the Sun-Times on a daily basis, and I do not look forward to his column at all.  If you don&#8217;t like U2&#8242;s music, fine.  But he personally attacks them every chance he gets.  He has some sort of problem with any band that&#8217;s had global success.  And R&amp;H is painful?  That just shows he wouldn&#8217;t even give great live performances like Bad and WOWY a chance</p>
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